Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/02/2000 03:07 PM House HES

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HB 373 - STUDENT LOAN CORP PAYMENTS TO STATE                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON announced the next  order of business as House Bill                                                              
No. 373,  "An Act relating  to return  of contributed  capital, or                                                              
payment of  a dividend,  to the state  by the Alaska  Student Loan                                                              
Corporation; and providing for an effective date."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DIANE   BARRANS,  Executive   Director,  Postsecondary   Education                                                              
Commission,  Department  of Education  & Early  Development,  came                                                              
forward  to testify.    She noted  that  the Alaska  Student  Loan                                                              
Corporation endorses  this bill and  asked Sheila King  to present                                                              
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 2319                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SHEILA KING,  Finance Officer, Division of  Finance, Postsecondary                                                              
Education   Commission,   Department    of   Education   &   Early                                                              
Development, came forward  to present HB 373.   The Alaska Student                                                              
Loan Corporation  board endorsed this  bill as another step  as an                                                              
enterprise  agency of  the  state.   The  corporation's return  of                                                              
capital payment under this bill would  be based on a percentage of                                                              
net  income when  net income  is  in excess  of $2  million.   The                                                              
structure of the  payment was crafted to allow  the corporation to                                                              
continue  to  issue  new low-interest  student  loans  to  Alaskan                                                              
residents that would  meet the criteria of the  loan program while                                                              
continuing to  increase their financial  stability to  continue to                                                              
provide services in  the future.  While the  corporation's efforts                                                              
through  this bill  is focused  on making  a return  to the  state                                                              
general fund, she mentioned that  when the Governor introduced the                                                              
bill, he expressed  a desire to use the payment to  provide a fund                                                              
source for the Alaska Scholars Program.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN asked Ms.  King to explain how this payment                                                              
to the state works providing students  with low-interest rates and                                                              
this return  of capital to the state.   The purpose is  to provide                                                              
affordable education to Alaskan students  so interest rates should                                                              
be kept  as low  as possible,  and one  way is  to take the  money                                                              
recovered  from loans and  plow it  back into  the principal.   He                                                              
asked if  capital is moved to  something else, are  lower interest                                                              
rates to students given up.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2223                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KING  answered that  the calculation on  the interest  rate on                                                              
the loans is driven by the cost of  the program with the component                                                              
of the  administrative cost and the  cost of borrowing  to provide                                                              
funds for  the loans.   Loan  receipts are  recycled to  provide a                                                              
portion of the  loans, and the remaining portion  is bonded.  This                                                              
payment   to   the   state  would   not   affect   those   numbers                                                              
significantly.   The  only  effect  it would  have  to the  income                                                              
statement  would  be  an  investment  earning  component  on  that                                                              
portion which  is not  considered in the  calculation of  the loan                                                              
rate.   The  loan rate  is  made up  of two  components:   1)  the                                                              
administrative  cost  of  running  the  program  and  2)  cost  of                                                              
borrowing  to fund  the  loans.   The majority  of  the funds  are                                                              
recycled  back  into  the  program  to keep  the  borrowing  at  a                                                              
manageable level.   There are  requirements in the  indenture that                                                              
require certain tests are met before  any money could be taken out                                                              
of the  trust which would  be taking it out  of the program.   The                                                              
levels projected for this payment  are in the range of $600,000 to                                                              
$2.2 million each year over the next five years.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN  asked if  she had any written  information                                                              
so he  could actually see  the model  that has been  developed for                                                              
those calculations.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. KING said she would get that for him.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 2122                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BRICE believes  it is  a real  novel approach  for                                                              
paying for  the Alaska  Scholars Program.   He appreciates  it was                                                              
put forth by the Administration and the University of Alaska.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2102                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WHITAKER   commented  that  the   Alaska  Scholars                                                              
Program has nothing to do with the student loan program.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KING  said  in  developing the  idea  of  the  dividend,  the                                                              
corporation  board has  expressed an  interest that  the funds  be                                                              
used for  an educational purpose.   The desire  to use it  for the                                                              
Alaska Scholars Program  came from the Governor's  office and that                                                              
is an  educational purpose  which  is under the  broad purview  of                                                              
what the board has expressed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WHITAKER said  certainly the  scholars program  is                                                              
admirable, but  he is concerned  that it  may be asking  those who                                                              
would be  utilizing an educational  loan to somehow help  fund the                                                              
Alaska  Scholars  Program with  students  that  may not  have  the                                                              
financial  need that  those  intended  to be  helped  by the  loan                                                              
program would have.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. KING  answered the  structure of  the payment wouldn't  impact                                                              
the interest rate  on the loans.  The payment  would be considered                                                              
a return of capital and under the  parameters in the indenture, it                                                              
can be taken out and passed on.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 2024                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WHITAKER said the  loan program is designed to help                                                              
those  in financial  need;  the  Alaska  Scholars Program  is  not                                                              
necessarily designed to help those  in financial need.  If the two                                                              
cost  factors are  the  cost of  administration  and  the cost  of                                                              
borrowing,  certainly the  proceeds from  past borrowing  could be                                                              
utilized  to offset administrative  costs,  therefore the  cost to                                                              
the borrower  could be decreased.   If funds are not  borrowed but                                                              
rather  earnings utilized  for lending  purposes, certainly  again                                                              
the rate charged to those borrowing the money could be reduced.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. KING reiterated that cash is  recycled to the extent to reduce                                                              
the borrowing to  a manageable level.  The amount  of the dividend                                                              
with the parameters  keeps it at a level that would  not pass that                                                              
cost  on to the  borrowers.   The amount  of the  dividend is  not                                                              
included  in  expense  calculation  so  it  doesn't  inflate  that                                                              
interest rate to the borrower.  Additionally,  the program is open                                                              
to all Alaska residents whether they're  in financial need or not.                                                              
It has a  minimal impact on  the corporation's bottom line  on the                                                              
net  income.   Not everything  in  the net  income computation  is                                                              
considered in the rate charged on the loans.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1851                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BRICE said the  state legislature established  the                                                              
interest  rate  that students  pay  a couple  of  years  ago.   He                                                              
understood  the ability  to turn  the profits  of the  corporation                                                              
into lower  rates would not be  possible without a  separate piece                                                              
of legislation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS  answered the corporation  board could have  chosen to                                                              
recycle all of  its net income into new loans.   Philosophically a                                                              
couple of  different issues were on  the table when this  idea was                                                              
endorsed.  One is that the corporation  has asked this legislature                                                              
and the administration to treat it  as an enterprise organization.                                                              
Toward  that end,  the corporation  was interested  in having  the                                                              
state have  "a share  of the  positive return."   The  corporation                                                              
board wanted to do that in terms  of moving this symbolic level of                                                              
money back to the  general fund to be used as  the legislature and                                                              
administration  saw fit.   If in  turn the  legislature wanted  to                                                              
reappropriate these funds back to  the corporation and create some                                                              
offset  for  existing interest  rates,  it  could  do that.    The                                                              
corporation  is  not  seeking  that  because  it's  offering  very                                                              
competitive interest  rates as it is.  However,  that is something                                                              
that could be done.  She noted that  the interest rates are fixed.                                                              
Those  can't be  reduced without  creation  of a  fund that  would                                                              
actually  pay  the  corporation  to offset  those  rates.    Going                                                              
forward it  can reduce  interest rates  as has  been done  for the                                                              
last two  years and hopefully will  be done in the  future because                                                              
the program costs portion are reducing  the interest rate formula.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  BRICE asked  what the  interest rate  is for  next                                                              
fall semester.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1749                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS  answered the  note rate  is 8  percent, and  there is                                                              
still the interest  free period while someone is  in school so the                                                              
effective rate of interest is below  8 percent when the six-months                                                              
grace period is calculated.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS explained  that the interest rate  is calculated based                                                              
on the  average of the  last five years program  costs.  It  is an                                                              
average thing moving forward and  it's all fairly speculative.  It                                                              
presumes that interest  rates on bonds are going  up when actually                                                              
the corporation has  gotten very good rates on bonds.   One of the                                                              
ways it has been  able to reduce interest rates on  loans is there                                                              
have been  better rates on  the bonds sold.   The bonds  have been                                                              
upgraded to  AA and are  very competitive as  those are sold.   It                                                              
wouldn't necessarily reduce the interest costs.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN  asked if it is possible  to create another                                                              
fund to help reduce the interest rates.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BARRANS said  if the  corporation  received an  appropriation                                                              
from the state to pay in lieu of  the borrowers paying their fixed                                                              
rate of interest,  then the state  could give those funds.   There                                                              
would need to be  an external revenue source in order  for that to                                                              
actually be feasible.  The interest  rates borrowers are paying on                                                              
the  notes are  reflected  in all  of the  corporation's  official                                                              
statements.   Those  rates  are fixed  and  cannot be  arbitrarily                                                              
reduced.   As far as the cash  flow, certain warranties  have been                                                              
made to  the bond holders  that the  corporation will  charge that                                                              
rate on those  loans without an  infusion of cash; it  wouldn't be                                                              
able to just arbitrarily reduce the rate on those loans.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KEMPLEN asked  why the capital  can't be  recycled                                                              
and use that money to lower the interest  rate on those old loans.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1603                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BARRANS answered  if this  bill  passes and  $2.2 million  is                                                              
returned to  the state in  the form of  general funds, and  if the                                                              
legislature were  to reappropriate those funds to  the corporation                                                              
for that purpose, the corporation could do that.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN  asked if she was saying  that the existing                                                              
statute  prohibits the  corporation from  recycling the return  on                                                              
capital into reducing the interest rates on existing loans.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS answered no.  She is  suggesting that the indenture on                                                              
the bonds  prevents that.  The  corporation has made  a commitment                                                              
to run  the program with these  financial terms and  conditions in                                                              
place.   If the corporation  were to  arbitrarily just  reduce its                                                              
net  income  in order  to  offset  those  rates,  it would  be  in                                                              
violation of the bond covenants.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KEMPLEN  said he is concerned that  they are taking                                                              
money away  from students  and putting  it into  the general  fund                                                              
where it can be used for road maintenance.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1532                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON asked what the cash balance is this week.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. KING answered about $240 million.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON asked what that is invested in.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KING  said   a  large  portion  is  invested   in  investment                                                              
agreements that are  similar to repurchase agreements.   There are                                                              
some  short-term  repurchase  agreements   and  a  few  government                                                              
securities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  DYSON asked  if  additional appropriations  were  needed                                                              
during the years the collections weren't very good.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1483                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KING said she  believes that 1993 was the last  year there was                                                              
any general fund appropriations received.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  DYSON asked  Ms. King if  she would  get information  on                                                              
those  amounts  that  were  made  from the  general  fund  to  the                                                              
corporation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KEMPLEN  requested  additional  information  about                                                              
exactly what prohibits  the corporation from using  this return on                                                              
capital  to lower  interest  rates on  existing  loans and  future                                                              
loans.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GREEN  asked  what  was  the  sudden  change  from                                                              
running  in the  red to  running  in the  black around  1993.   He                                                              
wondered  if it  had anything  do with  garnishing permanent  fund                                                              
dividends (PFD).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1411                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KING replied  that the  change really  came from  legislation                                                              
passed that gave the corporation  additional collection tools such                                                              
as credit checking  and credit reporting; wage  garnishing will be                                                              
implemented soon.   The collection  department has been  beefed up                                                              
and  some electronic  devices  to help  contact  people have  been                                                              
added.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS added that occupational  licensing has been a leverage                                                              
tool for several  years as well as an internal policy  shift.  The                                                              
PFD garnishment  tool  has been in  effect since  the late  1980s.                                                              
The garnishments have risen dramatically  with the increase of the                                                              
dollar amount  of the  PFDs.   In the  past, the commission  would                                                              
take  the amount  that was  past  due on  the borrower's  original                                                              
schedule; now the entire amount is taken.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  DYSON asked  if  the corporation  is  able  to go  after                                                              
Native corporation dividends.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1306                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS  answered  there is probably  an ability  to issue  an                                                              
order to  withhold and  deliver; the  commission hasn't  gotten to                                                              
that  stage of  flexing the  administrative garnishment  authority                                                              
right now.   The wage garnishing  is the "big bang for  our buck."                                                              
The  commission  will  continue to  explore  what  that  authority                                                              
allows us to do.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON announced that HB 373 would be held over.                                                                        

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